View Full Version : Process Intelligence in Pentaho

07-28-2010, 02:06 PM
I saw a white paper from Aris (actually, Software AG) about PI that was really interesting: crossing process information on process management would give one the complete business view (www.process-intelligence.com). One would be able to pinpoint bottlenecks, for instance. It is not really never-seen-before (take Dimensional Modeling for instance: you must begin from a business process in order to have something to turn into a DW), but seeing things in this light really makes business administration clearer.

Are there any thoughts on integrating Pentaho with any workflow tool, or adding the ability to conect to a workflow tool?

(Aris/S.AG takes on the other path: examining data to uncover business flows and process and automagically enhance corporation performance - at least says it so the sales brochure).

Best regards,


08-11-2010, 06:07 PM
Actually the original vision of the BI Platform was to build BI solutions that interacted with and were orchestrated by a workflow engine. In versions 1.0 through 1.6 or 1.7, we actually shipped with Enhydra Shark and used XPDL to define process flows. The Action Sequence inputs/outputs/resources defined the interface or contract with the workflow engine and the Pentaho runtime. There is still a capability for the server's runtime engine to store state in the repository in order to pass data between xactions without needing to push all that data through the workflow engine. But, no one cared, most early adopters were still struggling with basic reporting and analytics.

I still think this is the future of BI, being part of a much bigger solution and taking part in the process of delivering BI. I'm sure we will get there eventually.

For a little nostalgia: http://forums.pentaho.com/showthread.php?25783-why-shark or you can google "pentaho shark" for more history - the google machine never forgets :)