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    Hello Peers,

    What is the difference in creating Dashboards using Dashboard Designer and CDF ?


    In CDF we create a Dashboards.jsp , template-dashboard.html , dashboard-list.xsl. Do we need to follow the same procedure in Dasboard designer or do we have drag&drop options in it like other dashboard wizards of other tools.

    To create dashboards in dashboard designer does a person need to have knowledge of JSP, X-actions,... The question looks silly, but i am confused , plz conform..

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    CDF doesn't use jsp's, check the docs.
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    The Dashboard Designer uses CDF to create dashboards. Basically it is the CDF design tool (GUI) in the Pentaho Enterprise Edition, which comes with some extras like a Chart Designer. It is aiming at end users, without any programming knowledge.The Dashboard Designer is Drag&Drop or at least no coding of files is required.

    To build dashboards using CDF, without a GUI, you need some basic HTML and JavaScript knowledge, that's it.
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    Dont forget pedros open source dashboard designer is now available - aimed at developers for developing cdf dashboards!

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    thanx for the information,

    all that i understood is CDF dont have a gui, where Deshboard designer have a gui. But both based on same concept ..

    then where u group those html and javascript, in eclipse designer studio ?


    Thanx in advance ....

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    CDF is the Framework that is used by the Dashboard Designer.....therefore Dashboard Designer is a GUI for CDF. The other GUI is Pedro's CDF Editor, which you can find here.

    You can create your html/javascript in any editor you like as long as you put them into the Pentaho solution folder afterwards.
    Last edited by ingo.klose; 10-15-2009 at 09:16 AM.

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    Hi

    i have downloaded and copied the pentaho-cdf folder under pentaho-solutions\system directory , copied the pentahomeeting09 in pentaho-solutions\bi-developers. I found CDF folder in userconsole. There are some documentation, samples folders are there in it. But i didnt find any GUI or designer or Create New Dashboard like stuff ... am i missing something ?

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    CDF itself has no GUI....did you download the CDF Editor, too?

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    I just downloaded cdfde-0.1.tar.bz2 from http://code.google.com/p/cdf-de/downloads/list as u mentioned in ur previous post.

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    Next step is to register the plugin.....since the Designer is a Pentaho Plugin.

    For that you go to http://your_serverort/pentaho/Admin

    There you execute Refresh Plugin Adapter. Somewhere in the output window it should have a bit of text like: "Content generator registered: pentaho-cdf-dd for plugin Dashboard Designer Framework, Plugin Dashboard Designer Framework has registered successfully"

    Now the Designer is registered with the BI Server.

    If you navigate to the CDF Samples and especially the one in pentahomeeting09 you should be able to select EDIT when you right click. Then the CDF Editor opens.

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    Thanx alot ingo.klose for the information, not only me some other new bees are facing the same issue..

    But after registering the CDF successfully, i didnt find pentahomeeting09 in user console under samples directory. How to fix this ? even when i right click other samples like chart samples, map dashboard... the edit option is disabled

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    You can't edit Non CDF-DD created dashboads. And you need to refresh the repository
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    after refreshing repository i found pentahomeeting09 folder, but the folder is empty...
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    pentahomeeting09 folder contains .wcdf, cdfde,properties,xml format files. there are no .xcdf format files. Do i need to create or configure any thing to get the editor ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akheel.mohd@hydus.com View Post
    Hi

    i have downloaded and copied the pentaho-cdf folder under pentaho-solutions\system directory , copied the pentahomeeting09 in pentaho-solutions\bi-developers. I found CDF folder in userconsole. There are some documentation, samples folders are there in it. But i didnt find any GUI or designer or Create New Dashboard like stuff ... am i missing something ?

    what about pentaho-cdf-dd?
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    So...

    Downloaded the files as described.
    Copied the 3 directories to biserver-ce/pentaho-solutions

    Restart biserver

    Go to myserver:8080/pentaho/Admin
    Refresh EVERYTHING in the Refresh section.

    I now have a New -> Dashboard in the menu, which opens a new window tab (within Pentaho), but the page is blank, and the Tomcat window shows:
    11:29:02,521 ERROR [DashboardDesignerContentGenerator] DashboardDesignerContentGenerator.ERROR_001_ - INVALID METHOD : newdashbaord


    So... What did I do wrong?

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    I ran into that one, too. For some reason that Menu does not work, but if you right click on the dashboard in the pentahomeeting09 folder, choose edit and the designer opens. Using the Designer you can create a new Dashboard.

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    Is there documentation at all on how to use it?

    I'm getting tripped up by little things like **PRESS ENTER AFTER INPUTTING DATA**

    I can't seem to get a simple "Select count(*) from employees" working from JNDI SampleData

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    I don't know if Pedro did that, yet....don't forget, it is a very early version 0.1.

    For more information see Pedro's Blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutlez View Post
    **PRESS ENTER AFTER INPUTTING DATA**

    heh. Indeed, that's something that only affects you during the first 2 hours, after that you'll get used to it.

    No docs. This is just a sneak preview, we didn't have time to build a proper release.

    Don't forget this uses CDF, so unless you activated sql support in cdf you won't be able to do sql querys
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    Hi all

    I think maybe i've similar problems

    I've placed all the folders, refreshed everything in the refresh section

    i've tryed to right click and edit, but i havent been able to creater a new dashboard



    does anyone can help me?

    thanks
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    Wait....

    Am I seeing an internet explorer there? nah... I must be confusing things...
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    Who uses ie6?

    Oh wait, quite a lot of people according to various news sources...
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    ah, i was using in IE cuz of proxy problems

    well, in firefox it really works

    thanks =)

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    Hi

    I faced the same problem as Tamashiro.Now that i've changed my browser ALMOST everything is working well.

    I can't save my dashboards...

    I have already created a new folder "dashboard" in pentaho-solution, after saving it I check the folder but there isn't anything inside.

    could anybody help me?

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    Refresh the repository
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmalves View Post
    heh. Indeed, that's something that only affects you during the first 2 hours, after that you'll get used to it.

    No docs. This is just a sneak preview, we didn't have time to build a proper release.

    Don't forget this uses CDF, so unless you activated sql support in cdf you won't be able to do sql querys


    How to activate sql support ?

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    unfortunately...refresh didn't solve my problem.

    i can't even create a new dashboard.
    Bugg_tb, could you post the steps to create and save a dashboard in Pedro's Editor?
    It can be a very simple dashboard...

    thanks in advance.

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    I'm having the same problem, can't save a dashboard which I make in CDF-editor, I use the save option normally but nothing happens.

    Anyone got an idea of how to solve this?

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    Marcelo, In the version of cdf-dd I have I found I couldn't save to directories that had a space in the actual directory name, the directoryname.xml label doesn't count, whats on the filesystem I mean.

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    File->New->New Dashboard do not work at moment.

    You have to use the pentaho-solutions\pentahomeeting09\newDashboard.cdfde which comes with the package from Pedro.

    Regards

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    "Save" and "Save as" aren't working either.

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    I was able to get Save / Save As working, but it took a few tries.

    What I did:
    1) Edit New CDF Dashboard
    2) Save As: Dashboard in Creation
    3) Edit Dashboard in Creation
    4) Add Queries / Components / etc
    5) Save (Dashboard in Creation)

    I have had several of my users bring up this "Test" Dashboard and confirm it works

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    There is a open question!

    How to activate sql Support for cdf? Who knows?

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    Copy the *.xaction.sql files hidden somewhere I've forgotten in the solution dir. Same as ever, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Lucas Kodama View Post
    "Save" and "Save as" aren't working either.
    Doesn't work for neither.

    I'm getting the following errors:
    17:42:27,369 ERROR [DashboardDesignerContentGenerator] DashboardDesignerContentGenerator.ERROR_001_ - INVALID METHOD : newdashbaord
    Loading File:/pentahomeeting09/newDashboard.cdfde
    17:42:51,673 ERROR [DashboardDesignerContentGenerator] java.lang.NoSuchMethodError - org.pentaho.platform.api.repository.ISolutionRepository.getFileByPath(Ljava/lang/StringLorg/pentaho/platform/api/engine/ISolutionFile;

    Is a specific version of Pentaho required for the CDF editor to work?
    It seems as a really nice tool, but unless people can give it a good try there's very little feedback we can give.

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    Jeez, not this one again; New Dashboard from menu is not implemented.

    ok... WAS not implemented, our team did that today. I'll see if I can put a new bundle tomorrow.

    Should also fix the save to a directory with spaces in the name
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    Pedro,

    Has anyone said 'THANKS!' yet?

    If not... Well... Thanks!

    I haven't rolled this out yet, but I'm working on it, and my users are excited by it...

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    well , i should thanks writer of cdf editor first.

    But i found i can't save new dashboard after i edit "New CDF Dashboard "
    i think i may miss the solution because system memtion me that "Please choose destination folder."


    Any one help me ? Do i miss something about configuration?

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    Version 0.2 is posted; New dashboard works from the menu and supports saving to folders with spaces
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    newbee question.....

    Is it possible to edit and modify the source code generated by cdf-dd? (like a template-html.....)

    --M

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    Not directly; But you can always save the generated source as a template.html file; that thing is, in the end, a cdf dashboard

    Yes if you use dom handling
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    Thanks pedro!
    But
    ... you can always save the generated source as a template.html file;
    if i try to save a template i've an alert (* File Name: (Invalid file extension. Must be .cdfde))




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    Once you do that you stop using the editor... you need to build a .xcdf file and use the cdf to render it
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    ok, i understand now.
    Good Job!

    --Marco

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    Hi, Thanx all for providing the information,


    I heard that in Pedro-CDF-DE we cant edit the dashboards those are created by Pentaho dashboard designer(Enterprise Edition).

    Can we edit these dashboards designed by CDF-DE in Pentaho Dashboard Designer (Enterprise Edition)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akheel.mohd@hydus.com View Post


    I heard that in Pedro-CDF-DE we cant edit the dashboards those are created by Pentaho dashboard designer(Enterprise Edition).

    Can we edit these dashboards designed by CDF-DE in Pentaho Dashboard Designer (Enterprise Edition)?

    Gotta ask... Where did you hear that?
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    I have started using the designer and think it is a great tool, very usable for it's early stage.

    There is only one thing I have not figured out how to do.

    In my dashboard, I'd want to include a xaction component (not an ExecuteXaction) to display a report inside the dashboard.

    When I create the object, there is no "listener" properties so I can refresh the report when changing parameters values.

    Is there a newer relaease that would include this properties. Id not, how can we use xaction reports with the designer ?

    Have you also tried including the prpt object in the designer ?

    I'm using 0.2

    Thanks !

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    That xaction issue was a bug indeed, and we've fixed it. I don't actually recall if we already added the prpt component, but when we make the next release I'm sure that will be included too

    -pedro
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    Is there a way I can get this fix, or a recent build ? I could not find source code if svn at google code...

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    purely lack of time. I'll try to do that soon
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    Default Login Screen won't go away.

    Hey everyone,

    I have been working with the CDF-Dashboard Editor for about two weeks now. everything seems to be working fine when I access the dashboard I created through http:\\localhost:8080 but when I try to access the page from another PC (http:\\pentaho:8080)the login screen comes up and won't go away. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

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    Hello,

    follow this thread , this may solve your problem

    http://forums.pentaho.org/showthread...781#post228781



    akki..

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